[mb-users] Picard - Not Clustering

[demigod987]

The problem I'm having is sometimes the "Cluster" button does nothing at all.
For example, I just ripped a CD with 11 tracks. So now I have 11 mp3s. I
drag them into Picard and they go into the "Unclustered Files" section. I
highlight all 11 and press the "Cluster" button, and it does nothing. The
files don't go into the "Album Clusters" section, they stay in the
"Unclustered Files" section no matter what I try.

What could be causing this, and how might I fix it?
Thank you for your time!

[Beth]

Do the files have a name entered where the album title is? I believe cluster
works off of that field.

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The problem I'm having is sometimes the "Cluster" button does nothing at
all.
For example, I just ripped a CD with 11 tracks. So now I have 11 mp3s. I
drag them into Picard and they go into the "Unclustered Files" section. I
highlight all 11 and press the "Cluster" button, and it does nothing. The
files don't go into the "Album Clusters" section, they stay in the
"Unclustered Files" section no matter what I try.

What could be causing this, and how might I fix it?
Thank you for your time!

[Aaron Cooper]

Sounds like the files might have no ID3 tags and Picard is not
scanning their Audio Fingerprinting. Edit the options of your CD
ripping software to include ID3 tags and this will help Picard, and
also enable Audio Fingerprint analyzing in the Options. Apply the
settings and redrag your MP3s back in... they should take longer to
scan and will probably match some with the database.

Hope that helps,
-Aaron

Post by demigod987
The problem I'm having is sometimes the "Cluster" button does nothing at all.
For example, I just ripped a CD with 11 tracks. So now I have 11 mp3s. I
drag them into Picard and they go into the "Unclustered Files" section. I
highlight all 11 and press the "Cluster" button, and it does nothing. The
files don't go into the "Album Clusters" section, they stay in the
"Unclustered Files" section no matter what I try.
What could be causing this, and how might I fix it?
Thank you for your time!
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[Steve Wyles]

Post by Aaron Cooper
Sounds like the files might have no ID3 tags and Picard is not
scanning their Audio Fingerprinting. Edit the options of your CD
ripping software to include ID3 tags and this will help Picard, and
also enable Audio Fingerprint analyzing in the Options. Apply the
settings and redrag your MP3s back in... they should take longer to
scan and will probably match some with the database.

Also, a facility to use musicbrainz data in freedb enabled applications is
also currently in the testing stage.

See:

http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2006-July/012741.html

for details.

Steve

[Jan van Thiel]

Post by Steve Wyles

Post by Aaron Cooper
Sounds like the files might have no ID3 tags and Picard is not
scanning their Audio Fingerprinting. Edit the options of your CD
ripping software to include ID3 tags and this will help Picard, and
also enable Audio Fingerprint analyzing in the Options. Apply the
settings and redrag your MP3s back in... they should take longer to
scan and will probably match some with the database.

Also, a facility to use musicbrainz data in freedb enabled applications is
also currently in the testing stage.

Also, if you rip with CDex, you can add data to your tags directly
from MusicBrainz: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdexos/ . If you do
that, the clustering won't be a problem, since that tags are exactly
the same ;)

[Steve Wyles]

Post by Jan van Thiel

Post by Steve Wyles

Post by Aaron Cooper
Sounds like the files might have no ID3 tags and Picard is not
scanning their Audio Fingerprinting. Edit the options of your CD
ripping software to include ID3 tags and this will help Picard, and
also enable Audio Fingerprint analyzing in the Options. Apply the
settings and redrag your MP3s back in... they should take longer to
scan and will probably match some with the database.

Also, a facility to use musicbrainz data in freedb enabled applications is
also currently in the testing stage.

Also, if you rip with CDex, you can add data to your tags directly
from MusicBrainz: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdexos/ . If you do
that, the clustering won't be a problem, since that tags are exactly
the same ;)

Yup. But, one thing I noticed about the direct musicbrainz support in CDex
is that it doesn't handle UTF-8 very well.

However, as CDex has support for version 6 of the freedb protocol, using
the mb2cddb gateway works beautifully :)

/me hints the mb2cddb gateway could still do with a little more testing

Steve

[Jason Salaz]

If you're tagging a single album, clustering is really not necessary.
You can drag the entire 'Unclustered Files'
grouping/header/frame/whatever into an album.
If you only have one album sitting there, it might work depending on
how the file is named.
Otherwise, it might not, and you'll have to manually merge them anyways.

Some form of ID3 tags previously existing is a good thing.